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Originally Posted by Valencia

I didn't say "instant 3-in-1" coffee or coffee mate, I meant the instant ground coffee made from those expensive German coffee makers costing $50000+. Many shops including Cafe de Coral have that, making expresso or cappucino.

Just expecting someone to pick on the silk stockings part. I hope they don't use old ones.

umm.. sorry. i was JOKING... you know, trying to have some innnocent fun. i am sorry if i upset you re instant coffee...

i still wanna know how/who to ask so for their stockings so i can strain my tea... i used to use my teeth, but stockings sound so much more... interesting? flavoursome? okay, okay... i'm going back into my hole....

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Originally Posted by jayinhongkong

hey man, did you know dairy farm in hong kong has some kind of crazy building where the cows are stacked on top of each other? the milk is from imported breeds, friesland i think. they really feed 'em to get em to produce. lol. it's like a milk factory....they take good care of the cows, though, so milk here is expensive if ya haven't noticed.

mate, take it from someone who has worked in the industry - the farmers dont see shit of the $30 per L you pay. some of the farms i worked with the top milkers made 50-60L per day. these guys got paid the equiv of $1.70HK/L if the milk was perfect, down to $1.20/L or less if the milk wasn't up to scratch, ie perfect. the cows were dog meat after 4 lactations cos they couldn't keep up. but yes, they're kept in nice clean sheds, and fed lovely supplements. sometimes they see the sun pardon my sarcasm, i am actually a big supporter of dairy, seeing as though it paid my bills for a few years... and cows are cool...

BTW, it's Holstein Friesian. and the milk from the same cows (yes, the exact same udders, i might add) tastes nicer in Oz.. check the Pura brands etc...

[jayinhongkong]

Actually, I think the cows here are machine milked. They're let out in shifts to go outside...kinda like jail. lol. poor cows better locked up than on someone's plate though, right?

i've tried pura. tried milk all over the world, actually. indian milk is amazing, if you boil it you get a thick layer of cream smells like cows even! i think the difference is fat content. after all, milk is an emulsion of fat in water, right? australian milk is perhaps more flavorful. maybe they're extracting fat from the milk here for other uses?

i get my dairy from cheese at present. especially edam and gouda. i love dutch produce

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Originally Posted by jayinhongkong

Actually, I think the cows here are machine milked. They're let out in shifts to go outside...kinda like jail. lol. poor cows better locked up than on someone's plate though, right?

i've tried pura. tried milk all over the world, actually. indian milk is amazing, if you boil it you get a thick layer of cream smells like cows even!

cows everywhere are machine milked, and have been for atleast 50 odd years. There is no way we could afford milk if it was hand milked - would take you 1 hr to milk 60 litres from a cow. these farms have got like up to 2000 cows! some farms let the cows out, most don't cos it wastes energy that could go into producing milk, and increasing numbers of farms dont have the pastures freed up for grazing.

and you would NEVER eat a dairy cow... mb a day old dairy calf (veal) but never a cow. tough as old boots. they have beef cattle, you know. they actually have muscles and very limited udders

sort of back to topic, milk in HK tastes gross. the only way i can drink it is after it has been steamed hot for my latte... the burnt flavour seems to dim the gross taste

re Pura, you missed the point. the point was, in Oz I'd buy Pura milk, and like it. in HK, the milk from the same factory tastes gross. OK, it probably (and most likely) is the milk the Aussie market wont buy (ie the reject milk), but it comes from the same farms as what goes onto the shelves in Oz. it just gets to HK a week later. and it takes up to a week to hit the shelves in Oz. no wonder it tastes gross by the time it gets to HK!

[cb1118]

the mix of various tea leafs is the "secret formula"

good luck if you can find such formula (it is the secret of the restaurants)
**it's why some restaurants are famous for the milked tea, while others are just average.. or below average.

[Valencia1]

Not really a secret. Tsit Wing Coffee supplies the ingredients for coffee and tea and machines to 90% of the tea restuarants in HK. It's the silk stockings used to strain the tea that makes it smooth. But don't think of opening a tea restaurant in HK, it's a losing business.

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Originally Posted by Valencia

Not really a secret. Tsit Wing Coffee supplies the ingredients for coffee and tea and machines to 90% of the tea restuarants in HK. It's the silk stockings used to strain the tea that makes it smooth...

ahhh, so it's like indian masala (not masala tea, masala). when i was travelling india everyone would tell us "it's not the spices, but the sweat off the cook's brow" that made it taste so good

no wonder there is individual variation in the tea - depends on whose stockings you use...

[andy810227]

Originally Posted by cb1118

the mix of various tea leafs is the "secret formula"

good luck if you can find such formula (it is the secret of the restaurants)
**it's why some restaurants are famous for the milked tea, while others are just average.. or below average.

hey, thanks a lot man. i will try to mix some tea leaves for a try. Do you have any idea which tea leaves taste good?

[andy810227]

Originally Posted by Valencia

Not really a secret. Tsit Wing Coffee supplies the ingredients for coffee and tea and machines to 90% of the tea restuarants in HK. It's the silk stockings used to strain the tea that makes it smooth. But don't think of opening a tea restaurant in HK, it's a losing business.

Hehehehe......yes i agree with you, valencia. But the "sillk sock" milk tea is very famous here in Malaysia's cafe. But sadly, it all doesn't taste even near the original hong kong style milk tea......so i was trying my luck here to seek for help to brew the best milk tea in Malaysia.....hehehehehe

[andy810227]

Originally Posted by helles

I think you need carnation milk rather than 'real milk' - not that you can get real milk in hk..

and use tea leaves and strainer rather than tea bag.

hey Helles, thanks for the information.....do you have any idea tea leaves from which country taste better?.....