[jimmymakss]

Originally Posted by dependsonfate

thanks for the replies people.

Now i'm thinking of completing my NS before going to Hong Kong.

The bad thing is I cant have double Nationality?

No...Sg doesnt allow citizens hold more than 1 nationality.

The is the bottom line of the rule.

You have surrender either 1 of the nationality. This is wat happened to my s'porean friends last time when they were granted with australian citizenship.

I always have an impression that SG is more likely a place where citizen's behavour is strictly supervisied no matter what. No chewy....etc. Thats what annoyed me at the most.

[lybenben]

1) Your question about nationality:

* Singapore prohibits strictly dual nationality held by Singaporean citizens
* Under Chinese nationality laws which apply to HK as well as the mainland, the FUNDAMENTAL principle is that dual nationality is NOT permitted for Chinese citizens.
* In your case, if you wish to be naturalised in HK and become a Chinese citizen-- you would need to give up your Singaporean citizenship before you can acquire Chinese citizenship

2) BUT- if all you want is the right to live, work and/or study in HK-- you only need to acquire RESIDENCY STATUS in Hong KOng (and need not worry about your nationality status)

[EUChinese]

Originally Posted by dependsonfate

Hello people.

I am 18 years old. from Singapore. a Singapore citizen.

1) and i want to move to Hong Kong to be a Hong Citizen.
May I know what procedures/requirements i have to go through?

2) May someone like me hold double nationality?

3) And in Singapore, every guy has to go for NS (National Service), and when I have become Hong Kong citizen/pr (Dont know what u called that), will i have to go back to serve the NS?


I seriously hope there will people helping me and answering me questions. thanks!

You wil still have to serve the nation serivce unless you never go back to SG.

You can't be becoming HK citizen just like that, there are proper applications in place you need to go through.

[rryann]

Hi all,
i'm a 18 yr old male singapore citizen staying in singapore now. while my father was born in hk. so i'm currently applying for the permanent identity card in hk. how long will it take. and i've also decided to give my citizenship in sg to get hk citizenship will that be possible?

[Aritaurus]

Originally Posted by rryann

Hi all,
i'm a 18 yr old male singapore citizen staying in singapore now. while my father was born in hk. so i'm currently applying for the permanent identity card in hk. how long will it take. and i've also decided to give my citizenship in sg to get hk citizenship will that be possible?

You want to renounce your citizenship already ? Usually, you'd have to go through a lot of soul searching to make that kind of decision. At the age of 18, I'd think twice before doing so. I'm from Canada and born to Hong Kong parents. I just came back from Hong Kong applying for my Permanent Identity Card but I wasn't able to get establish my Right of Abode because I haven't been settled in Hong Kong before 1997. However, I have acquired the Right to Land.

Getting a Chinese citizenship isn't as easy as you think. If one or both of your parents were settled in Singapore at the time of you were born -- you are not a Chinese citizen. The People's Republic of China does not recognize dual nationality. If you were born with a Singaporean citizenship, you are not considered a Chinese national.


Your case is pretty similar to mine. You should be able to acquire the RTL -- Right to Land without any problems. You're allowed to Work, Study and not be subject to any limit of stay while in Hong Kong. This is the de-facto PR. As for Permanent Residency, you will have to be an ordinary resident of Hong Kong for no less than 7 years. After 7 years, and you gain your Right of Abode, you should be able to apply for naturalization as a Chinese naturual. You'll have to fill in a form and this is subject to approval from an immigration officer. If it's approved, you will be given a certificate of Chinese naturalization and you'll be a Chinese citizen with the Right of Abode in Hong Kong and will be eligible for the HKSAR passport and the Home Return permit.

As of right now, given your age and current status, you should have the RTL -- that's a good start. If you were approved for an HK Permanent Identity card before 1997, you probably have the ROA already and you just need to apply for naturualization. Then again, they're really strict and look at many things like your habitual residence in Hong Kong, your parents etc.

I still think Singaporean citizenship is very useful. It's one of the only three nationalities allowed to enter China without a visa. You should value the citizenship you have and know what you really want to do. I already have the right to remain in Hong Kong without any restriction and free to work study. I'm already happy with this.

[dependsonfate]

Originally Posted by Aritaurus

You want to renounce your citizenship already ? Usually, you'd have to go through a lot of soul searching to make that kind of decision. At the age of 18, I'd think twice before doing so. I'm from Canada and born to Hong Kong parents. I just came back from Hong Kong applying for my Permanent Identity Card but I wasn't able to get establish my Right of Abode because I haven't been settled in Hong Kong before 1997. However, I have acquired the Right to Land.

Getting a Chinese citizenship isn't as easy as you think. If one or both of your parents were settled in Singapore at the time of you were born -- you are not a Chinese citizen. The People's Republic of China does not recognize dual nationality. If you were born with a Singaporean citizenship, you are not considered a Chinese national.


Your case is pretty similar to mine. You should be able to acquire the RTL -- Right to Land without any problems. You're allowed to Work, Study and not be subject to any limit of stay while in Hong Kong. This is the de-facto PR. As for Permanent Residency, you will have to be an ordinary resident of Hong Kong for no less than 7 years. After 7 years, and you gain your Right of Abode, you should be able to apply for naturalization as a Chinese naturual. You'll have to fill in a form and this is subject to approval from an immigration officer. If it's approved, you will be given a certificate of Chinese naturalization and you'll be a Chinese citizen with the Right of Abode in Hong Kong and will be eligible for the HKSAR passport and the Home Return permit.

As of right now, given your age and current status, you should have the RTL -- that's a good start. If you were approved for an HK Permanent Identity card before 1997, you probably have the ROA already and you just need to apply for naturualization. Then again, they're really strict and look at many things like your habitual residence in Hong Kong, your parents etc.

I still think Singaporean citizenship is very useful. It's one of the only three nationalities allowed to enter China without a visa. You should value the citizenship you have and know what you really want to do. I already have the right to remain in Hong Kong without any restriction and free to work study. I'm already happy with this.

Hi, thanks for the info. i havent been replying this for quite sometime as this post was made sometime ago.


May I ask what are the requirements to obtain the RTL? Is one of the criteria, One of your parent must be from HK?

I have think and think through out the months, i think i will be start working in HK before deciding on anything. So are there any comments or advices u would like to give? I would be happy to know!

Thanks in advance. Have a nice day.

[Aritaurus]

Originally Posted by dependsonfate

Hi, thanks for the info. i havent been replying this for quite sometime as this post was made sometime ago.


May I ask what are the requirements to obtain the RTL? Is one of the criteria, One of your parent must be from HK?

I have think and think through out the months, i think i will be start working in HK before deciding on anything. So are there any comments or advices u would like to give? I would be happy to know!

Thanks in advance. Have a nice day.

The Right to Land status is only for people who have lost their Right of Abode. I was once entitled to Right of Abode but I never came back to Hong Kong to establish it before the handover -- I was still considered a British Territory Dependent Citizen before 1997. Both of my parents were born in Hong Kong and they're both Permanent Identity Card holders. I really wish I applied for my identity card before 1997 so I'd be entitled to a full Right of Abode. I have a few friends who were born in Canada and have the Permanent ID Card because they made the declaration that they were settled in Hong Kong before July 1 1997.

I still don't mind having this status. I'm not subject to any limit of of stay in Hong Kong and I'm free to work and study without a VISA. It can only be revoked if I commit any serious crimes.

My best advice would be to just to get your university degree and start looking for a job in Hong Kong. This site is useful, there are also a lot of other websites out there that can help you find work. After seven years of ordinary residence in Hong Kong, you'll be able to get the full Right of Abode and your Permanent Hong Kong Identity Card. It's also easier if you're married to a Hong Kong resident who has the Right of Abode. You'll be given a dependent VISA that will allow you work without any restriction as long you're still married to your spouse. The seven year period still applies in order for you establish your own Right of Abode.

You don't necessarily have to become a Chinese citizen just to live in Hong Kong permanently. I would just acquire the Right of Abode then just keep the Singaporean nationality. If you get into any trouble in Hong Kong or in Mainland China, the Singaporean government can still provide your with consular services. If you decide to change your nationality, you'll have to renounce your Singaporean citizenship in order to get the Chinese one. I still think it's better to travel with a Singaporean passport as oppose to the HKSAR one.

[dependsonfate]

Originally Posted by Aritaurus

The Right to Land status is only for people who have lost their Right of Abode. I was once entitled to Right of Abode but I never came back to Hong Kong to establish it before the handover -- I was still considered a British Territory Dependent Citizen before 1997. Both of my parents were born in Hong Kong and they're both Permanent Identity Card holders. I really wish I applied for my identity card before 1997 so I'd be entitled to a full Right of Abode. I have a few friends who were born in Canada and have the Permanent ID Card because they made the declaration that they were settled in Hong Kong before July 1 1997.

I still don't mind having this status. I'm not subject to any limit of of stay in Hong Kong and I'm free to work and study without a VISA. It can only be revoked if I commit any serious crimes.

My best advice would be to just to get your university degree and start looking for a job in Hong Kong. This site is useful, there are also a lot of other websites out there that can help you find work. After seven years of ordinary residence in Hong Kong, you'll be able to get the full Right of Abode and your Permanent Hong Kong Identity Card. It's also easier if you're married to a Hong Kong resident who has the Right of Abode. You'll be given a dependent VISA that will allow you work without any restriction as long you're still married to your spouse. The seven year period still applies in order for you establish your own Right of Abode.

You don't necessarily have to become a Chinese citizen just to live in Hong Kong permanently. I would just acquire the Right of Abode then just keep the Singaporean nationality. If you get into any trouble in Hong Kong or in Mainland China, the Singaporean government can still provide your with consular services. If you decide to change your nationality, you'll have to renounce your Singaporean citizenship in order to get the Chinese one. I still think it's better to travel with a Singaporean passport as oppose to the HKSAR one.

Thanks for the reply, i appreciate it.

But how can i acquire the Right of Abode. what are the requirements for it ?

[Aritaurus]

Originally Posted by dependsonfate

Thanks for the reply, i appreciate it.

But how can i acquire the Right of Abode. what are the requirements for it ?

You just answered your own question by quoting my above post !

[dependsonfate]

Originally Posted by Aritaurus

You just answered your own question by quoting my above post !

Oops! sorry. oh ok. thanks.