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Old 12-07-2003, 06:41 PM
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Reviewed the Dublin Jack for tomorrow's SCMP - Sunday Post July 13. Review also available online at http://www.arghasen.com/Beer/New%20S...day%20Post.htm
 
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Sorry some people complained that this link wasn't working properly. If you still want to read this, here's a foolproof link

http://www.arghasen.com/Beer/beer_page.htm

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My only problem with the review is that its too PR driven.

Why is it that Irish pubs are far more expensive than the regular pubs?

Also, I've generally found the food at Dublin Jacks to be below average... and borderline bad.

The Whiskey Priest is our current favorite for a good *ice-cold* Harp and some pub-grub. The temp of the Harp beats both Delhaneys and Dublin Jacks.
 
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I'd like to pen a rebuttal to Shri's comments on my Dublin Jack feature as soon as I have a few seconds, but before that for those who like Guinness and/or Stout in general: there's a good program on TV tonight called The Thirsty Traveller ( ATV World 8.30 pm). The host takes a Stout trip through ireland, visiting the world's largest brewery in Dublin, learning to pour a perfect pint and checking out haunted castles in Cork and Kinsale where Ireland's famous 'black gold' is used to cook everything from oysters to beef and halibut.

Should be fascinating !
 
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Thanks for the tip GF, I have almost missed TTT on both occassions The 1st was a trip to Islay and the highlight was surely the salmon cooked with a single malt
the 2nd ep was to Champagne where locals tend to take their sabres to open the bubbly-as shown in CA full throttle
again cooking used the local brew.
I will be stocking the fridge in anticipation of the irish tryst
 
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The next time you’re in an Irish pub, and you wish to warm up (further) the spirits of any Irish present (customers, bar staff and management, whoever) and gain some brownie points in the bargain, you can try out a traditional Gaelic way of saying “cheers”. Works equally well if the scene is outside Ireland as it does within, and even the north-south divide melts away when it comes to such rich deep-rooted cultural traditions involving booze.

When you feel the moment is right and you can have the attention of your intended Irish audience, stand upright. Raise your glass and looking towards them, call out loudly and clearly, but with a slight note of dignity if it can be mustered, “Pugmahon”. Then do it again, only a bit louder this time. After the rousing cheer that follows, savour your new-found status of “insider” for a long long while.
 
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for the visit after "Pug Mahon"

Here's to a long life and a merry one,
a quick death and an easy one,
a pretty girl and an honest one,
and a cold beer --- and another one!

and for the visit after that

http://www.aspirennies.com/private/S...ilyToast.shtml
 
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With those Pugmahon cheers still ringing, here's a rejoinder to my SCMP Dublin Jack feature, replies to some of Shri's comments and some general perspectives about beer.

"My only problem with the review is that its too PR driven"

Both Reema and I like the Dublin Jack very much. She likes the food, the cosiness of the upper level and the F1 racing on the big screen. I like the atmosphere in the main bar, the Guinness and the posters. When I want to give out-of-towners a feel of HK pubs, I often take them to DJ.

For me it's also a little personal as DJ was the first pub I ever visited in HK. Also last year when I was going through a slight
'low' period, I often used to drop in here for a pint. So I've been wanting to write a feature on DJ and finally managed to persuade SCMP ( they were a little reluctant at first as they've covered it many times before) . Before I wrote the piece I refreshed my memory with two visits to the pub specifically for this ( some geoexpaters were party to one of them) and only then met up with the Manager over breakfast to get some information.

The best part about pubs is that everyone has their own favourites, often for very personal reasons. And that's the way it should be. And one bad experience, one snooty waiter, one glass of stale beer or half-fried chips can turn you off a particular pub for life. I haven't had a bad experience in DJ yet, and continue to like the pub. While I am not crazy about it, I still think it is one of the better pubs in HK. And because I absolutely adore Guinness, I guess I go there a little too often. For pure atmosphere, which is always one of the key reasons to like a pub, DJ is far superior to Delaneys or Whiskey Priest or Dot Cod. Or that's what I think. I love it when others think different, and take me to their favourite pubs to prove their points.


"Why is it that Irish pubs are far more expensive than the regular pubs?"

This probably has something to do with the price of Guinness, which is always one of the most expensive drinks around. Possibly due to the vice-like grip Guinness has on the Stout market all over the world, partly due to the legends surrounding the brand and partly due to the fact that the Guinness in HK comes from Malaysia Which is why it is a good idea to go to Irish pubs at Happy Hour and enjoy the black stuff at better prices.

(Those who like Irish pubs may like to read an absolutely rip-roaring book called "McCarthy's bar' written by a guy called Pete Mccarthy. That book gives some indication of why in Ireland the pub is THE social institution - not the church, not marriage, not rugby, not politics. And if Irish pubs interest you, try doing a search on the best beer sites: www.beerhunter.com, www.worldofbeer.com, www.protzonbeer.com, www.realbeer.com

And finally a word about 'ice-cold beer' . This may seem like blasphemy to some, but my humble suggestion is that only bad beers need to be drunk ice-cold. Drinking beer at that tongue-numbing temperature probably refreshes you but doesn't let you 'taste' the beer.

That's fine for the Budweisers of the world which don't have any taste or flavour to speak of ( try drinking a Bud or a Carslberg warm - it tastes like piss) but to me it is a bit of a shame to mask the flavours of a good beer by drinking it straight out of the freezer.

Generally most bottom-fermented beers like lagers are drunk cold and again generally American ones are drunk colder than their Czech or German counterparts. Except the American microbrews which have particular temperatures at which they taste best. Top-fermented beers like English ales are drunk lukewarm ( try asking for a cold ale in an English pub !!). The best Belgian trappist beers carry a note on their label that they should not be drunk at temperatures lower than 18 c. Guinness - to me - tastes best when drunk cold, not icy, as what's the point of drinking it if you can't feel the brilliant charred malt flavour ?

But then lots of people like drinking Guinness ice-cold. In fact many pubs serve two versions of Guinness - one regular and one ice-cold. Different strokes for different folks. And once again, that's the way it should be.

I was planning to carry on with some perspectives about beer in general but this has already become far too long and I fear the moderator's scissors will do their thing if I don't stop now. More when we meet folks, and as far as I remember the next round's on Shri !
 
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Now this is what I call a great 2 4 1 deal.

First we get GF's rave review on DJ and then we get his rant [all the stuff the SCMP threw out]

and all the the same month

trying to figure out which was better is my only lament

life doesn't get much better then this

May the Lord keep you in his hand and never close his fist too tight.

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A uni What ?

The Universal Toast

Observe, when Mother Earth is dry
She drinks the dropping of the sky,
And then the dewy cordial gives
To every thirsty plant that lives.
The vapors which at evening weep
Are beverage to the swelling deep;
And when the rosy sun appears
He drinks the ocean's misty tears.
The moon too quaffs her paly stream
Of luster from the solar beam.
Then hence with your sober thinking!
Since nature's holy law is drinking,
I'll make the law of Nature mine,
And pledge the Universe in wine.
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