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#1
17-08-2008, 07:24 AM
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| Why so few bus lanes? As 40% of people get to work on the bus why does this city have so few bus priority lanes? On 22Km for the whole city.  |
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#2
17-08-2008, 09:53 AM
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| HK is a small place, so therefore therefore limitations on roads width and number of lanes, hence few bus lanes. the motorways are are also shorter in width, hence why the speed limit is quite low ( also cos of the depth and quality of tarmac/bitmen used on hk roads) |
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#7
17-08-2008, 12:17 PM
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There may be more opportunities is some areas to designate bus lanes only but overall in Hong Kong I see very little opportunity to do this in a way that is not just symbolic but actually improves the traffic flow. If you put all the non-bus traffic in one lane from two, the traffic tie ups in most areas of Hong Kong would be far worse than exists now. HK has no lanes for deliveries to speak of and that makes thing tougher. This is just not a place where you can engineer the roads to get bus lanes. Maybe a list of streets and opportunities would be helpful as I can't see the chance to do much more for buses given the space available. |
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17-08-2008, 02:14 PM
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#9
17-08-2008, 04:53 PM
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| Obviously you are all thinking in the box. We don't have to create more roads for bus lanes. Have you ever considered bus lanes for peak hours only? Or bus lanes with access to trucks with special permits? Or roads that private car has to pay to use? I'm no traffic expert but let's start here: - south-bound in the central tunnel, from Ho Man Tin to the tunnel opening - north bound lane for the aberdeen tunnel - make hennessy road bus and truck only and make private cars pay - maybe central tunnel bus only at peak hours? its true that you can't financial justify an underground system for a city of 100000, but you can improve the public transport system if you provide bus lanes and making the bus the easiest and fastest mode of transportation. I might consider taking the bus more if it gets me there just as fast as a car. |
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#10
17-08-2008, 06:37 PM
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| Well you came up with some ideas this time lulumay and some of these ideas work in other cities and I alluded to that in my earlier post. I am not normally considered to be an in the box thinker but I did work at an executive level for a very large auto insurer and we contributed funds to make improvements to reduce crashes as well as I was in municipal planning in a senior role and I can tell you that these ideas you note have been done and work in many cities including Vancouver where I am from. Your ideas definitely would need to be reviewed on a case by case basis as the unintended consequences of these things sometimes produce worse results in traffic flow and become more symbolic (some bus lanes in Vancouver) than helpful. You can also fix a short stretch and then find bottlenecks further down the line as this city would in spades as it is so tight and not much space. The tunnel north and south ideas are done in Vancouver as are several bridges that reverse lanes in the morning and night. One of the problems with the Cross Harbor Tunnel is that too many roads on the Kowloon side are already converging there and it might be done, but it would need some doing to make it capable of moving three lanes in one direction. What is clear is that the other two more expensive tunnels could ease the burden on the crossing but that seems unlikely and who knows if traffic moved to the other lesser used tunnels if it would contribute to more road congestion just getting there. Last edited by Football16; 17-08-2008 at 06:38 PM. |
