[jimbo]

Climber07

I beat you to that one in the last thread where we discussed this

[climber07]

Originally Posted by jimbo

Climber07

I beat you to that one in the last thread where we discussed this

My bad Jimbo...haven't been around here in a while! It's still applicable though

[DanielandHayley]

I did laugh. alot! Normally I would react to being trodden on (because i'm a grumpy, arsey git) but in this case it was definately worth it!

[shilo507]

[quote=Claire ex-ax;237275]MTR ticket: $7.20
QUOTE]

In a nutshell, isn't that the biggest difference between the MTR and the London Underground, especially if you travel in London during the week before 9:30 am? I don't even know how much a peak fare is during the week in London these days but I am sure I can travel to work and back each day in HK for one whole week for the price of a one day ticket on the London Underground.

Sure people barge a bit on the MTR but it's kind of fun and for HKD 7.20 it's something I can put up with.

[jonnye]

Originally Posted by shilo507

In a nutshell, isn't that the biggest difference between the MTR and the London Underground,

I'd have to disagree that the biggest difference is the cost. The London Underground is considerably more extensive than the MTR. If it had been designed/installed in the 70s I think it would be a very different system and service a much smaller area. The number of lines, stations, and trains that run in London is probably more than any other city (certainly all the cities that run an underground/metro system I've been to).

It's obviously not helped that some of the infrastructure dates back to the Victorian age. It's inefficient, archaic, underfunded, and idiosyncratic - but despite all that I think it's pretty brilliant (or maybe it's because of all that). Who in their right mind would build underground stations today that might only be a few hundred yards apart? And have them look considerably further apart on the map!

Any system that has a station called Mornington Crescent gets my vote.

[imparanoic]

alternatively, its possible that you can move to an area near the east rail amd within the new territories and having a choice of travelling first class ( with proper padded seats) assuming your journey is to kowloon (kowloon tong, mong kok, hung hom and east tsim sha tsui)

thus, solving your problem over severe over-crowding (its not as bad on the eastern line as the tsuen wan line) as well as you have a very high chance of seat on first class.

[imparanoic]

pls also remember, it used to be even worse more than 10 years ago on the MTR, you have staff whose job is to push ( yes, to ram more people on the trains) more people on to the trains as well as less lines (no tung chung line, west line, tseung kwan line or ma on shan line) as well as no saftey barriers!!!!

[DanielandHayley]

Originally Posted by imparanoic

pls also remember, it used to be even worse more than 10 years ago on the MTR, you have staff whose job is to push ( yes, to ram more people on the trains) more people on to the trains as well as less lines (no tung chung line, west line, tseung kwan line or ma on shan line) as well as no saftey barriers!!!!

what happened if you pushed back??

[imparanoic]

if you pushed back a MTR staff, then would possibly call the police and you could get done for assualt!!

apparently,( according to the scmp) there is a former KCRC bylaw which allows offenders possibly to be jailed for 3 months just for verbal abuse!!

in uk, you have to severely hospitalise someone to get a similar punishment by the courts.

[shilo507]

Originally Posted by jonnye

I'd have to disagree that the biggest difference is the cost. The London Underground is considerably more extensive than the MTR.

I cannot agree on the cost issue. All forms of public transport in the UK (especially in London) are over-priced and often appalling.

I agree that the LU is considerably more extensive than the MTR except of course if you live south of the river. If you are coming in from the south London suburbs you often have to take a bus or an overland train (or drive) to get to the Tube Station. This increases commuting costs considerably.