[KnowItAll]

And he was on YouTube speaking Mandarin..

[gunsnroses]

Yesterday on CNN, they were saying, Clinton's supporters won't vote for Obama inthe election, but, Obama's would, if Clinton is the democratic candidate for presidency...how true is that??

[manesh]

CNN changes their story every other day when it comes to the campaign coverage. From each of these candidates, however, doesn't it strike you that Obama is the least full-of-shit? Or am I just buying into the power of his speeches?

[meiguoren]

Originally Posted by aussiegal

I hope not. It's ridiculous seeing the 'hollywood' effect that has helped Obama this far already. The only thing going for Obama in my books is that he's not Hillary Clinton. I hope America sees the light and realises you can't put someone with no real experience in as President.

That's the problem with hope, it leads people to consider improbable scenarios (or people in this case) as a way out of their problems.

personally public sector experience, imo, is not even necessary so much as having a good understanding of the system and a demonstrated ability to make good decisions - he will be surrounded by people and specialists who ultimately carry out the presidents decisions anyway - these posts are where the experience is most valuable and Americans know it

for example, Rumsfeld had tons of experience but didn't listen to those with even more telling him that you needed more troops - the result was a watered down hybrid plan and the results can be seen

How much experience did Abraham Lincoln have? The answer would probably shock any of the "experience = greatness" crowd. Don't let real world examples get in the way though

[aussiegal]

meiguoren you can't be serious? We're not talking about leading a company, coaching a tennis team, we're talking about leading the US in a pretty difficult time. Do you really want some pretty boy in who got there because he's got a nice set of abs and most of hollywood, not to mention Saint Oprah is behind him?

Crocodile- i was going to mention Australia and Kevin Rudd but thought better of it You're right, i didn't vote for Rudd but you can be damn sure we won't be going home whilst he's in gov. Mind you, if you feel like being a bludger now's a good time to go home. Australia, the welfare nation. Yippee!

[aussiegal]

And if it's going to be an Obama why couldn't it be his wife. She is one smart and charming woman, maybe that's enough if we're to follow meiguoren's argument.

I believe she's one of the reasons Obama has so much support behind him. Hell I'd vote for her over the other muppets running.

[KnowItAll]

aussiegal - wait till she tries to reform the health system on her own ..

[aussiegal]

Yeah I'd like to see that.

[Mat]

the simple fact that Oprah backs him should be enough not to choose him ;-)

[gunsnroses]

Why the age factor of Obama is a negative?? Shouldn't that be infact a plus factor??
and its not that he doesn't have any "work experience", he does, but then Bush and Nixon did too...I think, age or experience are useless if the person isn't good.