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Old 04-05-2008, 12:28 PM
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I've been working as an associate at an investment bank for the past year, reporting to a very well known figure in the industry. This is a research role, but as time has passed and I've gained my boss' trust, I feel I'm being treated as a personal assistant. I've been patched in on lotus notes and get asked to draft and send dozens of emails a day through the boss' account to clients, senior management, journalists. It's as though I'm not allowed to have any identity of my own. There is a secretary in the team, but somehow this work all falls to me.

Invariably, I'm expected to work late and over weekends to catch up on producing research. I've been asked to work practically every weekend and public holiday since starting. Everything I produce goes out in the boss' name and I'm only listed as a contact person on the back page. People routinely contact me, assuming I'm a secretary. I feel I am working for a complete parasite and who systematically tries to suppress the teams' visibility to appear single-handedly prolific. We have even been moved to another floor, to an obscure area of the office. Several us who work for this person agree that this is the worst situation we have ever encountered in our working lives.

Is there any hope to salvage this career? I've been meaning to complain, but I feel this person is too vindictive and too powerful.
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It begs the question why you are putting up with it. Obviously you like t company but I suggest you speak to HR or find another job.

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It begs the question why you are putting up with it. Obviously you like t company but I suggest you speak to HR or find another job.

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Yup those are your only real word choices, Speak to HR and tell them you are not doing a role that fits the job description you were hired to do etc, Or get the hell out and find a company more deserving of you.
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sorry, I'm struggling here - what is your problem?

what you have just described sounds perfectly normal to me, although I am assuming you are 20-something and have been working for about 2-4 years. If you are in your 40's and been working for 20 years, then I support what the folks above say. But otherwise it sounds like, as you say, your boss trusts you (this is good), your name appears in the contacts and people contact you (this is good) - the rest is what you make of it. Once people who contact you see what you can do, then they will come to you directly and you can rise on your own merits within the organisation.
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what you have just described sounds perfectly normal to me, although I am assuming you are 20-something and have been working for about 2-4 years. If you are in your 40's and been working for 20 years, then I support what the folks above say. But otherwise it sounds like, as you say, your boss trusts you (this is good), your name appears in the contacts and people contact you (this is good) - the rest is what you make of it. Once people who contact you see what you can do, then they will come to you directly and you can rise on your own merits within the organisation.
I agree with this poster's take.

The types of things you are sending out sounds like your level research related work and not secretarial in nature. I was for a year or so Exec Assistant to the President & CEO and I was promoted to this role from a director level position of a large P&C insurer in Canada.

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I wrote letters on major issues to Board members, Ministers, VPs, memos to all staff, etc and led many studies that went to the Board. I wrote personal thanks you notes to people who worked all weekend and evenings for a few weeks and produced over millions in savings with not one job cut.

I also wrote the monthly President's Report to the Board of Directors when a new CEO was asked by the Board to come up with a high level overview report that put words to the complex financials and claims numbers and to legal issues including matters in front of the Supreme Court of Canada that might go adverse to our interests and be huge future costs for which we'd need more premium.

I personally planned and developed this report which included my summary of the key financials and claims situation to go along with the numbers and provided laymen's versions of major issues before the courts. The Board loved it as did the managers who would get a shorter, sanitized version of it after the Board meeting.

This report often was discussed for over an hour. The CEO soon learned that if the President's Report went well everything else in the meeting went fantastic and there were some feisty and antagonistic board members that weren't easy to deal with. This report was to ensure that there were "no surprises" and that the Board was fully aware of the matters that were in their domain.

Once I thought something should be in and the CEO wanted it out to which the CEO replied "Remember it is MY report. You just write it!"

And you know what?

My name never appeared once or was it ever mentioned to the Board that I wrote the report. Not once, not ever. But, I did get promoted to Vice President!

If you are concerned, the last thing you should do is to go to HR unless you are applying for a new posting. I would call that a CLM - a career limiting move. HR aren't the source of solving this dilemma for you at all, and can be seen to be a break of the trust relationship you seem to have with this boss. Maybe you need more recognition and sadly some bosses are turkeys that way.

If you feel that there could be changes to give you more recognition, you should speak to the boss directly and tactfully. I am not sure from your post what you expect to be in your name. Clearly, as I indicated in my long explanation of what I did as an Executive Assistant was to be in the name of the CEO, not delegated. That is condition normal in executive offices. It goes out under the senior guy's name.

Good luck. PM if you want to chat as your post may be deliberately brief in content to avoid being identified.
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From what I understand that is what you do when you first start out in investment banking. Just to put up with it for a few more years until you get into a more senior role. I dont think its going to be any different no matter who you work for.
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Used to know a senior banker who'd get his juniors to run errands like picking up laundry etc... like Movingin07 said, depends on what stage in life you're at (i.e if you've done your time in the trenches... )
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I've been working as an associate at an investment bank for the past year, reporting to a very well known figure in the industry. This is a research role, but as time has passed and I've gained my boss' trust, I feel I'm being treated as a personal assistant. I've been patched in on lotus notes and get asked to draft and send dozens of emails a day through the boss' account to clients, senior management, journalists. It's as though I'm not allowed to have any identity of my own. There is a secretary in the team, but somehow this work all falls to me.

Invariably, I'm expected to work late and over weekends to catch up on producing research. I've been asked to work practically every weekend and public holiday since starting. Everything I produce goes out in the boss' name and I'm only listed as a contact person on the back page. People routinely contact me, assuming I'm a secretary. I feel I am working for a complete parasite and who systematically tries to suppress the teams' visibility to appear single-handedly prolific. We have even been moved to another floor, to an obscure area of the office. Several us who work for this person agree that this is the worst situation we have ever encountered in our working lives.

Is there any hope to salvage this career? I've been meaning to complain, but I feel this person is too vindictive and too powerful.
Mate, its all being part of a junior team member. when you start out, you DO NOT want things going out in your own name, because then you are on the hook for anything that is wrong.

I'm now a bit more senior that I now get juniors drafting correspondence for me which gets sent out in my name, but I don't write the stuff. I however have to check it, because if its wrong I'm the one on the hook.

as for the long nights and weekends. well you are an associate in an IB. Sorry, but what do you expect?
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sharing - my last job was Asst Vice President, but i have to draft every single policy, memo whatever under my boss name. if this is the rules of the game, either you play along or find something else that you make sure you name will be on for everything you did.
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Is there any hope to salvage this career? I've been meaning to complain, but I feel this person is too vindictive and too powerful.
Andrew? Is that you?

Yes, there is a way to salvage your career....stop your WHINING and GET BACK TO WORK!!! Oh and I want a donut with my coffee next time! Dammit!

So many people just like to complain....Answer me this...does you boss have you chained to a desk? are you perhaps being held at this company against your will? were you sold into IB slavery by your parents? NO? Then either shut up and do your job or find a different one... just stop crying about it!

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