[Aritaurus]

Originally Posted by prettynvain

yes. i am Philippine national, acquired my residency through my husband who is a chinese and is a hongkong national. im holding hkid (dependant visa by my husband). and later will change it to HKPIC and then that's the time, ill get my HK passport.

Acquiring an HKPIC alone won't get you an HKSAR passport. You'll have to apply for Chinese citizenship and renounce your Philipines citizenship. All foreign nationals who naturalise as Chinese citizens are required to renounce their citizenship before the Chinese citizenship is granted.

Pretty much only those born as Chinese nationals and have the right of abode in Hong Kong or Macau can maintain a form of dual citizenship.

[STB]

Originally Posted by Aritaurus

Acquiring an HKPIC alone won't get you an HKSAR passport. You'll have to apply for Chinese citizenship and renounce your Philipines citizenship. All foreign nationals who naturalise as Chinese citizens are required to renounce their citizenship before the Chinese citizenship is granted.

Pretty much only those born as Chinese nationals and have the right of abode in Hong Kong or Macau can maintain a form of dual citizenship.

Once she has acquired Chinese Citizenship, she can "reacquire" her Filipino Citizenship, under the new Philippine dual citizenship laws. This way, she will have 2 passports.

To do this, she has to give up Filipino citizenship first.

[Aritaurus]

Originally Posted by STB

Once she has acquired Chinese Citizenship, she can "reacquire" her Filipino Citizenship, under the new Philippine dual citizenship laws. This way, she will have 2 passports.

To do this, she has to give up Filipino citizenship first.

Wow, there's no other requirements for resuming Philipines citizenship ? For Canada, once you renounce your citizenship, that's pretty much it. You'll have to be admitted for PR under the normal immigration channels (Skilled immigration, Dependant of spouse, Investment). After one year of living in Canada with a PR status, they'll restore my citizenship.

I guess I'll be happy with right of abode in Hong Kong and holding Canadian citizenship. Although it'd be nice to have an HKSAR passport and a home return permit.

[STB]

Originally Posted by Aritaurus

Wow, there's no other requirements for resuming Philipines citizenship ? For Canada, once you renounce your citizenship, that's pretty much it. You'll have to be admitted for PR under the normal immigration channels (Skilled immigration, Dependant of spouse, Investment). After one year of living in Canada with a PR status, they'll restore my citizenship.

I guess I'll be happy with right of abode in Hong Kong and holding Canadian citizenship. Although it'd be nice to have an HKSAR passport and a home return permit.

Yes, that's it. You just have to submit a certified copy of your birth cerificate, and perhaps your naturalization papers (from the other country).

The Philippine government would be more than happy to process dual citizenship applications.

It's a relatively new law to entice former Filipino citizens to come back, re-invest, and retire in the Philippines. It's good for the Philippine economy, with foreign funds coming in.

Two of the main conditions are:

1. You have to be a natural-born Filipino (from a Filipino parent).

2. You are former Filipino citizen naturalized in another country.

Late last year, there was a case where the Philippine Ambassador to Spain tried to apply for Spanish citizenship, stating that there is a new dual citizenship law in the Philippines.

The lawmakers here weren't very happy about this (the applicant being an ambassador and all), and cited that he has to give up his Filipino citizenship first, and reacquire it later on.

In my case, I couldn't reacquire my Filipino Citizenship if I denounced it, since I'm not a natural-born Filipino (I was born while my dad was still a Chinese citizen).

[STB]

Here's the link to the news article.

:: Malaya - The National Newspaper ::

[prettynvain]

Originally Posted by Aritaurus

Acquiring an HKPIC alone won't get you an HKSAR passport. You'll have to apply for Chinese citizenship and renounce your Philipines citizenship. All foreign nationals who naturalise as Chinese citizens are required to renounce their citizenship before the Chinese citizenship is granted.

Pretty much only those born as Chinese nationals and have the right of abode in Hong Kong or Macau can maintain a form of dual citizenship.

hey, im not the one asking here. of course i know the procedures i must do for myself.

and yes, STB is right, Philippines do accept dual citizenship for a long time now.

[STB]

Originally Posted by STB

One question. This is regarding passport payment.

http://www.immd.gov.hk/pdforms/ID853n.pdf

There are 3 payment methods stated:

1. a cheque from a bank in HKSAR
2. a bank draft drawn on a bank in HKSAR
3. referee in Hong Kong

Since I don't have a cheque or bank draft, I was told to choose option 3, then write down the name and address of a relative in HK.

My question is:

How does this work and what should I tell my HK relative to expect? A notice by mail? Then what?

I was reluctant to ask the consul officer because her English was not very good. Pity, she doesn't speak Fujianese or Cantonese.

Plus....considering that all went well for me during the application, I wouldn't want to complicate things further. Sort of, quitting while I'm ahead

This forum has helped me a lot, so I think I might as well post some updates here just for lurkers...and future lurkers.

Latest update to my question above.

My HK relatives received a payment notice by mail, exactly 2 weeks after I filed my application. They were instructed to write a cheque and mail it back to IMMD.

The notice also included a return envelop for the cheque...so convenient.

I hope this means that I'll surely get my HKSAR Passport and HKPIC. It's jsut a matter of time now.

[STB]

Last week, I received a letter for IMMD Travel Documents and Nationality Application (TDNA) Section.

With my limited skills in reading Chinese, I figure that they are requesting for additional supporting documents, such as fingerprints, better photocopies, pictures and etc.

I send an email to enquiry@immd.gov.hk, requesting for an English Translation/Version, but so far reply yet except for an acknowledgement that they received my request and it will be forwarded to TDNA.

The wait is killing me. Anyone want to take a shot at the translation?

http://www.geocities.com/toseebeyondthesky/TDNA.jpg

[Aritaurus]

Hey,

It basically says they've received your application from the Philipines consulate and they need the following documents from you.

1) Completed ROP143/144 with your left and right thumbprints. The thumbprints must be clear and distinctive. You have to mark your thumbprints on a blank white piece of paper and be patient. You have to give them a few samples of your left and right thumbprints and provide your signature by every thumbprint.

2) You have to return the original of your old Hong Kong identity card (If you lost it or never had one , you have to submit in writing explaining why)

3) A recent photo of you that is issued from your residential government (I'm not sure what they mean by this but maybe an ID that's issued from your government ? )

4) You have state in writing:

a) The last time you left Hong Kong and what travel document you used.

b) When and what travel documents you used to travel there , what kind of visa. You also have to include the stamps of you leaving Hong Kong and entering the foreign country.

Others: You have to provide a clear photocopy of your previous BDTC Passports (entire booklet?) , because they do not have any photos of you on record.

Please fill in your personal details (not sure which form or where you write this on)

Please include photos of you from the time you were a child up to adulthood and duplicates of your school reports ?

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This is very rough translation. I'd call the IMMD to clarify some things as some of it is not very clear. My Chinese is not perfect either but I hope this helps.

[STB]

Thanks a lot!

It is indeed a tough translation.

Actually, I also shown it to some of my Chinese literate relatives, and they found it tough to understand too. According to them, all those legal terms are difficult to comprehend.

I wasn't sure if my relatives translated it correctly and completely. That is why I asked for a second opinion.

Your translation is similar, and has more detail.

Fortunately, I do have all the documents they require, and I will be sending it to them later this afternoon.

Regards...