[prettynvain]

in all your documents, what nationality are you writing in it?

and do you have your birth certificate issued by hk? proving that you're born in hk?

if that so, i think you can get a hk passport. but i guess you need to get a hkid first, im not quite sure if you can get a hk passport even you dont have hkid.

[Elfin safety]

Originally Posted by STB

I acquired Filipino citizenship, because I am a minor and legitimate child of a Naturalized Filipino Citizen. I don't think I acquired my Filipino citizenship of my own free will (thought I still wish to retain it after getting a HKSAR passport). The process was automatic as stated in this Philippine law:

Article 9 of the CNL was given a fudged "interpretation" as applied for Hong Kong.

If you take Article 9 as it stands - the many thousands of returning HK Chinese residents who had previously settled abroad in the likes of Canada, the US, etc, and naturalized (ie. "of their own free will") and gained foreign citizenship/passport would "automatically" lose their Chinese citizenship and right of abode in Hong Kong.

Hence the "interpretation of the CNL as applied to Hong Kong", which gets around this issue by turning a blind eye to it , by effectively permitting HK Chinese to hold dual citizenship as long as they don't make a formal declaration of their foreign nationality (which would not be recognized within Chinese territory). As the HK Immigration Dept says on its website: "whether you are regarded as a Chinese citizen in Hong Kong does not depend on what travel document you have. It depends on whether you have made a declaration of change of nationality to the HKSAR Immigration department ".

(In other words, it doesn't matter that you have a Filipino passport, as long as you don't declare yourself as a Filipino citizen, they will turn a blind eye and continue to regard you as a Chinese citizen by virtue of your birth in Hong Kong as a person of Chinese blood.)

I suspect this "interpretation" to get around Article 9 for Hong Kong was done in the interests of maintaining stability and prosperity of the territory; as it would tend to be the richer, well-educated section of the population that are more likely to have acquired foreign passports, and they are key to Hong Kong's economy and skills base. I would not be surprised if at some point in the future this special "interpretation" is re-interpreted back to what Article 9 ostensibly states but, as things stand, that is the current position.

You will need your HK birth certificate, and probably your original HK colonial passport and other supporting documents would help, but I don't see why you should have a problem with entitlement to a HKPIC and HKSAR passport. Be sure to state "Chinese" as your nationality on the application forms.

[STB]

Originally Posted by prettynvain

in all your documents, what nationality are you writing in it?

and do you have your birth certificate issued by hk? proving that you're born in hk?

if that so, i think you can get a hk passport. but i guess you need to get a hkid first, im not quite sure if you can get a hk passport even you dont have hkid.

Since I'm in the Philippines right now, I write Filipino.

I have my birth certificate issued by HK government. I also have a BDTC Passport (expired 1987).

HKPIC first...definitely.

[STB]

Originally Posted by Elfin safety

Article 9 of the CNL was given a fudged "interpretation" as applied for Hong Kong.

If you take Article 9 as it stands - the many thousands of returning HK Chinese residents who had previously settled abroad in the likes of Canada, the US, etc, and naturalized (ie. "of their own free will") and gained foreign citizenship/passport would "automatically" lose their Chinese citizenship and right of abode in Hong Kong.

Hence the "interpretation of the CNL as applied to Hong Kong", which gets around this issue by turning a blind eye to it , by effectively permitting HK Chinese to hold dual citizenship as long as they don't make a formal declaration of their foreign nationality (which would not be recognized within Chinese territory). As the HK Immigration Dept says on its website: "whether you are regarded as a Chinese citizen in Hong Kong does not depend on what travel document you have. It depends on whether you have made a declaration of change of nationality to the HKSAR Immigration department ".

(In other words, it doesn't matter that you have a Filipino passport, as long as you don't declare yourself as a Filipino citizen, they will turn a blind eye and continue to regard you as a Chinese citizen by virtue of your birth in Hong Kong as a person of Chinese blood.)

I suspect this "interpretation" to get around Article 9 for Hong Kong was done in the interests of maintaining stability and prosperity of the territory; as it would tend to be the richer, well-educated section of the population that are more likely to have acquired foreign passports, and they are key to Hong Kong's economy and skills base. I would not be surprised if at some point in the future this special "interpretation" is re-interpreted back to what Article 9 ostensibly states but, as things stand, that is the current position.

You will need your HK birth certificate, and probably your original HK colonial passport and other supporting documents would help, but I don't see why you should have a problem with entitlement to a HKPIC and HKSAR passport. Be sure to state "Chinese" as your nationality on the application forms.

Interesting "turning a blind eye" theory. I was also advised by my relatives (in HK) that I just need to put "Chinese" as my nationality on my HKSAR application, and everything should be ok. After all, I already possess all the documents to prove my right of abode, and Chinese ethinicity/birth. I don't even have to tell IMMD that I hold Filipino citizenship.

Will keep you guys updated.

Cheers to all!

[prettynvain]

i am a filipino as well. but i have hkid and just waiting for few years so i can get hkpassport (based on immd officer whom we talked to)

[STB]

Originally Posted by prettynvain

i am a filipino as well. but i have hkid and just waiting for few years so i can get hkpassport (based on immd officer whom we talked to)

Why a few years?

I read somewhere that you can get the HKSAR Passport overseas (e.g. Chinese Embassy Manila).

The HKPIC...has to be in HK though. How long did it take to get yours? I mean how long do you need to stay in HK? Just 1 day?

[Aritaurus]

Originally Posted by STB

Why a few years?

I read somewhere that you can get the HKSAR Passport overseas (e.g. Chinese Embassy Manila).

The HKPIC...has to be in HK though. How long did it take to get yours? I mean how long do you need to stay in HK? Just 1 day?

I think prettynvain is a Philipines national who seeks naturalisation in Hong Kong. After living in Hong Kong for seven years , she can obtain the right of abode then apply for Chinese citizenship. Once that is done, she will be eligible for an HKSAR passport.

You case is different because you have a claim to Chinese citizenship.

[STB]

I went to the Chinese Embassy today to apply for both HKPIC and HKSAR Passport.

It was quite easy, when you have all the proofs for ROA (e.g. my HK birth certificate/BDTC, parents Chinese passports and their HKPICs).

The only difficult part was to re-write my name and my parents' name in Chinese on the forms

Now I just have to wait for their call, hopefully in 8 to 10 weeks.

[STB]

One question. This is regarding passport payment.

http://www.immd.gov.hk/pdforms/ID853n.pdf

There are 3 payment methods stated:

1. a cheque from a bank in HKSAR
2. a bank draft drawn on a bank in HKSAR
3. referee in Hong Kong

Since I don't have a cheque or bank draft, I was told to choose option 3, then write down the name and address of a relative in HK.

My question is:

How does this work and what should I tell my HK relative to expect? A notice by mail? Then what?

I was reluctant to ask the consul officer because her English was not very good. Pity, she doesn't speak Fujianese or Cantonese.

Plus....considering that all went well for me during the application, I wouldn't want to complicate things further. Sort of, quitting while I'm ahead

[prettynvain]

Originally Posted by Aritaurus

I think prettynvain is a Philipines national who seeks naturalisation in Hong Kong. After living in Hong Kong for seven years , she can obtain the right of abode then apply for Chinese citizenship. Once that is done, she will be eligible for an HKSAR passport.

You case is different because you have a claim to Chinese citizenship.

yes. i am Philippine national, acquired my residency through my husband who is a chinese and is a hongkong national. im holding hkid (dependant visa by my husband). and later will change it to HKPIC and then that's the time, ill get my HK passport.