[Alby]

in the morning from 9 to 1030, we can have a rally supporting china in terms of the western media's twisted aspects then in the morning from 1045 to1200, so not waste people's time we can have a rally protesting the visa issue

[Sleuth]

Originally Posted by Alby

in the morning from 9 to 1030, we can have a rally supporting china in terms of the western media's twisted aspects then in the morning from 1045 to1200, so not waste people's time we can have a rally protesting the visa issue

Oh, I'm busy from 9-1030 but I think I can make the 1045-noon....

[dean-dzai]

Please read my opening thoughts in this first paragraph. This below text is copied from a facebook album which is very pro-China. For all those ex-pats who are very angry at China for their actions in Tibet I post the below as done by Chinese Internationally who are calling for the truth. All I say is we know both sides of the story and weigh the facts - I think we certainly do get a one-sided media those of us who see this from a totally Western view point.

Here's the text and youtube video's..... I hope this isn't too controversial for too many expats. I have already been labeled a fascist for seeing things from both sides in this forum, I wish people would look at both sides of the media.


For those who doesn’t know the truth of Tibet:
Dalai Lama is a betrayer to Chinese Central Government in 1959. Free Tibet is a lie, Tibet be in part of China since 13th Century.
This Riot and Media distortion was planed longtime ago.
Here are the evidences:

Canadian sociologist talks about Dalai Lama and...

Bloody Racial Riots intend on the incoming...

Originally Posted by jaykay

How much do you actually know about the history of Tibet and the bloody invasion, followed by the brutality of the rule, the purge of the religion and the destruction of a culture, not to mention the starvation? Anything?

How much do you know of both sides of the story? All I hope is that we can see both sides from what we already know from Western media and the above content.

[goleoboy]

having just returned from the U.S. and Europe (france / amsterdam / brussels...) i can totally attest to the blatant 'bias' of the western media. not only major media (eg. CNN situation) but even local news anchors and trashy day time talk shows (the gabbers on the View for example - Whoopie actually questioned McCain on whether he would boycott China if he was the president - and nodded in agreement when he said yes - followed by the entire audience cheering / clapping... sorry it was a slow morning heheh) Anyways, the western media bias is done in a more 'sophisticated' manner - seemingly unbiased but never showing the other side of the story - the ironic thing is that the news on CNN etc actually featured segments from the Chinese news coverage - with an anchor pointing out to the audience how the Chinese media is censoring the truth and pushing their side of the story... uh... isn't it also happening on CNN...?? i guess the chinese media needs to learn a thing or two from the west on how to 'cleverly manipulate' public opinion without being as obvious.. perhaps hire one of the exec producers of CNN over to CCTV... The interesting thing is, the west is blaming China for closing Tibet to foreign reporters, with this kind of biased news coverage, i don't blame china for not letting reporters in...

honestly, even if there are pro-china protests in Europe / U.S., i doubt they will get any airtime or write-up anyways... i can't even find any mention of ANY pro-china activity on cnn... and they seemed to have removed their story about Jack Cafferty and his goons/thugs/junk comments as well from their site as well... can't get reliable news coverage anywhere anymore...

i'm on the same page as many on this thread, all i would like to see is coverage of both sides of the story. CNN - being a global player - should know better and be more accountable than this...

[PDLM]

Originally Posted by goleoboy

honestly, even if there are pro-china protests in Europe / U.S., i doubt they will get any airtime or write-up anyways...

It's by no means perfect, but the BBC does, I believe, attempt to be somewhat objective, at least in its output intended for worldwide consumption. You can, for example, see a report on a pro-China demo in the UK here.

[goleoboy]

on the visa issue, it's sad to see china fell the need to 'close itself' again (even temporarily)... after so many years of struggle to open up. This west-driven pro-tibet/anti-china rally has done more damage than good... For China, and chinese people in general, relationship and TRUST is extremely important. I'm sure expats working here understands this more than most people. In the west, relationships can be built overnight or over a beer, in China, it takes time to woo and nurture a new relationship - usually via trial and error. As China is starting to trust foreign investments / involvement / visits and begun to open up, how this stuff happens and you see signs that it's closing up again. It's a shame...

[goleoboy]

i know, i do think BBC is the best of all of them. Can't believe when we were in Paris and Amsterdam - pro-tibet posters were everywhere and it was headline news almost daily...! There was even a "Wanted Murderer" poster featuring the Chinese president... it was disheartening... as a tourist...

[dean-dzai]

Originally Posted by goleoboy

This west-driven pro-tibet/anti-china rally has done more damage than good... For China, and chinese people in general, relationship and TRUST is extremely important...... It's a shame...

For this reason I do feel a little annoyed at some of my Western friends who without much thought or love protest China (and my multiple entry expires in May).

I talked with a leader of a Christian Human Rights organisation regarding this topic (human rights not visa's). She said a thought commonly reoccurring at the moment for her is 'love for neighbor' and what this means to love both the one you are advocating and the government at the same time - very complicated. I don't think the Western media ever put much thought in this direction which also is a shame.

I think I am one of the few foreigners I know who have (L) China before the MSN nick-name at the moment *haha*.