[dean-dzai]

What is your religious belief. Doing a poll out of interest.

I am especially interested to see how many Jedi's there are. I heard in Australia enough people put that on the census that it became an official religion, I wonder if this trend flows into Hong Kong. Use the force Luke.

[dean-dzai]

I want to hear from the Jedi Knight *ha ha* - tell us about how you 'use the force'.

[MS@HK]

rest assured the force is strong in this one young padawan ...
..speaking of which I think we should call it a galaxy not really so far away :

YouTube - Cisco Telepresence Magic

[dean-dzai]

We have seven atheists / agnostics so far, I would love to hear how you came to your position. For the atheists, what convinces them there is no God, and for the agnostics, what is holding them back from some form of faith.

Curious to hear.

[Sunfire]

There's nothing holding me back from some form of faith, as there's nothing drawing me towards some form of faith. I have never had a need to believe in a god or religious system, it's that simple.

[dean-dzai]

Originally Posted by Sunfire

There's nothing holding me back from some form of faith, as there's nothing drawing me towards some form of faith. I have never had a need to believe in a god or religious system, it's that simple.

This seems accurate with my experience, I am not a huge fan of Christians or anyone who put their hope in a God because 'hey it's worth a shot, avoid some pain'. But when God made himself totally irresistible to me - then there was something drawing me. A system of religion I don't think would draw anyone, but maybe God himself choosing to make himself irresistible to a person would pose a different position.

[Skyhook]

Originally Posted by dean-dzai

We have seven atheists / agnostics so far, I would love to hear how you came to your position. For the atheists, what convinces them there is no God, and for the agnostics, what is holding them back from some form of faith.

Curious to hear.

Religion in most part, not in all cases, has more than its fair share of blood on its hands. Its purposely designed to create divisions in society, which in theory,anti multi cultural, and not pluralist by nature.

I personally don't feel that by supporting any version of religious based social control/mechanism, in a society that is largely well educated, and driven by science, should we have religious airplay, at the expense of our intelligence?

Placing ones life in what cannot be proven by science, is intellectually flawed.

I am a firm believer of man/womankind, contributing to the future of our collective development, with emphasis on being better stewards of our world.

We don't need a religion to control us, we have national laws for that purpose.

Also, as a collective global humanity, we should work harder, by removing aspects of the human condition, that divide us, and the only way that can be achieved, is by not supporting religion.

As a big fan of the late Dr Carl Sagan, we are now at a technological age in history, to know better, than to place our planet in the hands of conflicting religious hocus pocus.

Place your faith in science, and advance to the maximum human potential, not by
being held back, and told the world is flat, because a god says so.

A video, by one of the worlds great minds, a well known atheist, and a major proponent of humanity. The late Dr Carl Sagan..Below.

YouTube - Carl Sagan Speaks

Meaty topic lol, but you did ask for an explanation.

[dean-dzai]

Originally Posted by Skyhook

I personally don't feel that by supporting any version of religious based social control/mechanism, in a society that is largely well educated, and driven by science, should we have religious airplay, at the expense of our intelligence?

Placing ones life in what cannot be proven by science, is intellectually flawed.

You make a good argument, myself a Christian (and I am curious to hear from adherents to other faiths), I stand not on faith in something abstract but something historic, scientific and if true amazingly relevant to yesterday, today and tomorrow - regardless of the joys of modern technology.

The Resurrection Proves The Case For Christ - Lee...

This is a video from Lee Strobel who himself was an atheist but turned to believe in Jesus predominantly by the factual, historic and scientific evidence, the case for Christ.

[Crocodile]

There is heaps of things on Youtube of course, but Ricky Gervais reads from the bible. Pretty much sums things up nicely.

YouTube - Is this what really happened?

[Crocodile]

Originally Posted by dean-dzai

This is a video from Lee Strobel who himself was an atheist but turned to believe in Jesus predominantly by the factual, historic and scientific evidence, the case for Christ.

I am sure a lot of people really don't have much problem with the evidence for Jesus Christ (or whatever you choose to call him). Sure there is some historical evidence of a guy who was around 2000 years ago.

Where the argument does start to get a little more shakey is when you talk about Noah (how did the Koalas make it to the Ark? What about dogs - did he have one of each dog on the Ark also? Two great danes, two poodles, two huskies, etc?) and other things in the bible such us incest and murder. The bible makes a great read.

BTW, I really don't care what religion people are, as long as they treat others the same way they would want to be treated.