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Netfront 1.5Mbit vs Netvigator 4M/4M business broadband

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Old 08-08-2007, 08:12 PM
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Netfront 1.5Mbit vs Netvigator 4M/4M business broadband

Comparing the performance of two ISPs is a pretty tricky job as there you have to concurrently access many destinations to be able to test all the circuits and ISP may have. We are right now rebuilding our Search HK engine which is perfect to do comparisions of ISPs opens about 200 concurrent connections to websites. Note that this test only reports performance intra HK, as 95% of the sites we are hitting are are in Hong Kong. It does not test their international bandwidth.


We ran the crawls on a 1.5Mbit circuit whilst we got the grip of things, then tried a 4M/4M symetric before move search hk to a datacenter.

Netfront: ADSL 1.5Mbit/512Kbit Netfront PPPoE using PCCW circuits and to connect to Netfront backbone via ATM.

Netvigator Business Broadband: 4M/4M vDSL circuit when crawling HK websites

Netfront would max at a sustained rate of about 198KB/s. 1.584Mbit
Netvigator: would max at a sustained rate of about 210KB/s. 1.680Mbit and peaks in short burstst at 2.2Mbit out of the declared 4M/4M symmetric.

Neither of both ISPs should experience congestion on their HK back bones as the bandwith is there, but Netvigator clearly has oversold its ADSL network by a huge factor. Netfront on the other hand manages to burst above the declared specs of the circuit as their ADSL is clear even thought the circuits are provided by PCCW. This confirms what I have known for a long time that ISPs that use PCCW circuits demmand and get a much higher level of service than if you go to PCCW direct.

Cost of circuits
Netfront: HK$598 with 32 IPs.
Netvigator: HK$790 with 8 IPs (6 usable)
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PCCW get away with the declaration by the use of two words " up to ".
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As do most of the ISPs in the UK according to an OFTEL investigation as reported by the BBC yesterday (or was it Monday).
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Nice to know I am staying current !
Seeing that most of us that spend time and actually read the stuff we sign this we knew, like forever --- Dude. It must have been a very slow news day.
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The real test would be.. Crawl the same website through both the connections. Www.netvigator.com

ideally there should be minimal diff in the tracerts.
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The real test would be.. Crawl the same website through both the connections. Www.netvigator.com

ideally there should be minimal diff in the tracerts.
I did crawl the same sites. Anyway even if I didn't the throughputs where constant regardless of what site is crawled on both circuits.

The netvigator circuit did do a bit better during night time. It may have reached sustained rates of 250KB/s for 3 or 4 hours.
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Could also be related to web servers been saturated / loaded with other traffic during the crawl.

So many million variations which make it really really difficult to benchmark.

Me, I remain a happy customer of both (used to have Netfront and continue to reco it to anyone who wants a simple BB connection) .. no problems getting 600Kbps on UKNova downloads out of Netvigator too.
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The fact that we are crawliing a bunch of sites at the same time over days, we have a sufficient sample to see what the two circuits can do. And we are pretty much getting two pretty conclusive results.

I will try to do some log analysis later and see how many unreachables each circuit got to see which of two can give reach.
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