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Originally Posted by Vrindavan

>> Humans eat animals.

agree 100%. So long as we accept that we are no different from animals too.


>> But let the rest of us live normal lives.

How is this related to "Government Brutally Killing 40,000 Pigs" ?

not understand

Because you don't hear anyone whining about the millions of pigs killed each day for food... 40,000 were killed but didn't get eaten WHO CARES???

[goodkarma]

Oh dear, back to topic.......

After they have been shot by the imported marksmen, what happens to them then?

I really hate the "cute" argument. Some find snakes cute some don't. It is irrelevant. The fact remains, it cannot be natural to have to cull healthy pigs when there are plenty of very very poor people here and in Asia who would eat them.

[dropdedfwed]

Amen...

but thats human nature. the "have's" don't give a RA about the "have nots" (apart from a few donations to charity, signing a few petitons etc )

we just put it into the "too hard basket" and forget about it. there's too many examples of this, yet no real "viable" solutions...

sigh....

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So is the issue about the pigs not going to a good cause after being killed? I somehow doubt that. These people don't give a shit about other people. All they care about is how "brutal" it is to kill a large amount of pigs, and how "horrible" it is to kill a cute seal. They don't care about whether people get fed, and they don't care about ugly animals like snakes and reptiles.

[Vrindavan]

>> and they don't care about


really not care or no (urgent) need to care

[KnowItAll]

lowlight : amen ..

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lowlight, you won't sway people who don't share your views, just as they won't sway you.

the fact is, not only were lots of pigs killed (and i don't think they're cute), they were apparently killed brutally and inhumanely. bringing other arguements in is totally irrelevant.

the fact they went to waste is a different, yet also legitament arguement.

we aren't ranting about snakes and other uglies because they are not farmed then mass killed. people keep them in glass cages and eat them in restuarants.

i do hear you that some "conservatives" are a little irrational, but so are some club weilding barbarians that live by the "if it's green burn it, it is moves eat it" motto

i don't buy the cute arguement - it's a pro meat eaters way of evading accusations of murder i am vego now, but in years gone by i have hand prepared my own meat, from the pet to the table... cows, goats, sheep, rabbits... all cute in their own way...

best not to label all "animal rights people" with the stigma you would label such organisations as PETA, who are often so ill-informed and blinkered it scares even the most devout pro-lifers and animal libs.

BTW, people DO whine about the millions of pigs and cows and sheep killed daily for food... but they are way out numbered by those who chow down on the flesh.

this is one area where people are way passionate, and there is no real middle ground. why do you think the vets found it so hard at AFCD?? ethically they knew it was wrong, but also had no power to find a solution. either take part in something you don't morally agree with, or turn your back on it...?? not a choice I'd like to have made.

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Originally Posted by KnowItAll

lowlight : amen ..

he he he

ROFL

hallelujah bro

[KnowItAll]

>> this is one area where people are way passionate

And this global warming nonsense too.

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Originally Posted by dropdedfwed

lowlight, you won't sway people who don't share your views, just as they won't sway you.

the fact is, not only were lots of pigs killed (and i don't think they're cute), they were apparently killed brutally and inhumanely. bringing other arguements in is totally irrelevant.

the fact they went to waste is a different, yet also legitament arguement.

we aren't ranting about snakes and other uglies because they are not farmed then mass killed. people keep them in glass cages and eat them in restuarants.

i do hear you that some "conservatives" are a little irrational, but so are some club weilding barbarians that live by the "if it's green burn it, it is moves eat it" motto

i don't buy the cute arguement - it's a pro meat eaters way of evading accusations of murder i am vego now, but in years gone by i have hand prepared my own meat, from the pet to the table... cows, goats, sheep, rabbits... all cute in their own way...

best not to label all "animal rights people" with the stigma you would label such organisations as PETA, who are often so ill-informed and blinkered it scares even the most devout pro-lifers and animal libs.

BTW, people DO whine about the millions of pigs and cows and sheep killed daily for food... but they are way out numbered by those who chow down on the flesh.

this is one area where people are way passionate, and there is no real middle ground. why do you think the vets found it so hard at AFCD?? ethically they knew it was wrong, but also had no power to find a solution. either take part in something you don't morally agree with, or turn your back on it...?? not a choice I'd like to have made.

If you don't want to eat meat, fine. That's great! More for the rest of us.

But guess what - WE DON'T CARE! Don't try to convince anyone that they are WRONG for eating meat, because it's not. It's not wrong to hunt seals just because they're cute, and it's not wrong to kill 40,000 pigs if there's something wrong with them, if they pose a danger to people or farms or whatever.

I'm not saying that it's good to torture animals. But if you want to deny yourself of tasty meat, keep that to yourself. You're not better because of it, and there's nothing wrong with people who do kill animals and eat meat.

Damn I'm hungry now LOL