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21-04-2007, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Stuckup_not  We also need to get insurance companies to admit that mental illness is as real as appendicitis and more people would seek help. | True, there are all kinds of stereotypes currently associated with mental deseases and unfortunately it keeps MANY that need help, aways from doctor's offices.
Also, in this changing world there is more and more pressure being placed on kids to succeed (nothing new in Asia...like Japan, etc. (but look at the suicide rates?)) These kids do not know how to handle stress! (I remember having problems with kids back in the day, heck all of us had conflicts at school, .but back then we worked it out on the playground , sometimes with fists, etc.) Today, they look for a different way out because they don't know how to handle stress or deal with bullies. Schools need to provide some serious training on stress and its dangers. | |
21-04-2007, 03:50 PM
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| | | stuckup has a great point, insurance companies should be covering mental help. appointments with pyschologists et al are very expensive and most people can't afford it out of their own pocket | |
21-04-2007, 05:36 PM
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| | Good point there. Kids nowadays have so much pressure to succeed. If they don't get straight A's it means they're useless. Guess that's why their stress level goes off the charts.
In Asia or elsewhere, they can't get guns that easily so maybe that's why they take their anger blaming it on the society and chose to suicide. But when you put guns on their hands, who knows what will happen?
Ya, so mental health is important. They need to have a proper way to "destress" or have someone to tell them it's okay if you're not a brilliant student.
As for controlling bullets availability, it doesn't matter if they kill 1 or 20. It's still wrong. Their family still suffers...  | |
21-04-2007, 06:32 PM
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| | | Its all Eminem's fault.
It always is. | |
21-04-2007, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Nutta! Its all Eminem's fault.
It always is. | Yep, it's either Eminem, Xbox/Playstation Games, Tarantino films, or he is somehow tied to Al Quida (I'm sure Dick Cheney has the evidence that links him). | |
22-04-2007, 08:03 AM
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| | | ~taxes
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Originally Posted by freeier well, then u going to see ppl making bullets and selling it in the black market at 4000, then 3000, then 2000, then 500, then 100, etc.etc...
u can't artifically control the price of a commodity and hope to control the usage. someone is going to try to profit from it in the black market and circumvent your objective | there already is a black market. organized armed criminals rarely go shoot up schools and offices.
tax the heck out of ammunition & control the sale. | |
22-04-2007, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by sylvesterjay you can make bullets at home. i had a US coworker, gun club member and all around yahoo who showed me the machine and how he could make them in his basement | yep "blanks" , they also can be under high control sale and and higher taxation. this whole practice should really be exterminated and discouraged. | |
22-04-2007, 10:42 AM
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| | | u didn't get it. once u impose high tax, the black market for bullet is going to pop up and people are just going to make bullets to sell without tax.there's no way to control that. maybe bad quality bullets with alot of in chamber explosion but nevertheless cheap enough for buyers .. | |
22-04-2007, 10:56 AM
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| | | Whenever something like this happens it makes me take notice more of people around me who may have an unfouded grudge, or an unrequted love interest or someone who is just cruel.
You really never know when they could just lose it. | |
22-04-2007, 01:32 PM
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| | | ~ i got it ! =D
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Originally Posted by freeier u didn't get it. once u impose high tax, the black market for bullet is going to pop up and people are just going to make bullets to sell without tax.there's no way to control that. maybe bad quality bullets with alot of in chamber explosion but nevertheless cheap enough for buyers .. | from post # 66 Quote:
Originally Posted by WalkAbout there already is a black market. organized armed criminals rarely go shoot up schools and offices.
tax the heck out of ammunition & control the sale. | since there already is a blackmarket, what can be done about ammunition sales in the retail sector? retail sales should be targeted because its the normal guy next door that does not have criminal connections to the blackmarket. just as luxury cars, alcohol & nyc tobacco tax; the tax of ammunition should be more commensurate with its inherent responsibility.
the tax stipend could be of good use to help solve issues surrounding random shootings and other gun control measures which are not effective.  | | Tools | Search | | | | | Rate This Thread | | | All times are GMT +8. The time now is 07:57 PM. | |
