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16-02-2007, 04:02 PM
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| | | structured product? anybody can explain what it below means?
939 HK + 2628 HK Callable Accrual
Underlying: 939 HK (China Construction Bank)
2628 HK (China Life Insurance Co.)
Call: 95%
Strike: 85%
Coupon: 20.00% p.a. (first coupon fixed)
Tenor: 2 Years
Frequency: Bi-monthly Call
Currency: USD
someone told me that this is structured product.
this one looks like product with options.
But I dunno how I read.
A basket of two stocks. Purchase call option priced with strike ( 85% of spot price??? ) . Coupon seems interests. Call is....
Please explain to me..
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16-02-2007, 06:39 PM
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| | | everyday the price of 939 and 2628 are observed.
if either one of them fall below 85% of the price on the start date, you do not get any coupon accrual for that day. else u get a 20% coupon accrual.
every 2 months there is a call observation. if the price of both 939 and 2628 are above 95% of original, the deposit is terminated and u get your money back plus the interest accrued.
if at the end of 2 years the worst performer is below 85% of the initial price, u get the stock at the 85% price (i.e. not a capital protected product) | |

16-02-2007, 08:19 PM
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by roll3432
A basket of two stocks. No, It is the "worse of" the 2 stocks
Purchase call option priced with strike ( 85% of spot price??? ) .
Actually selling put options with 85% strike
Thanx | There is no free lunch. Interesting coupon implies "interesting risk" | |

16-02-2007, 10:38 PM
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by freeier everyday the price of 939 and 2628 are observed.
if either one of them fall below 85% of the price on the start date, you do not get any coupon accrual for that day. else u get a 20% coupon accrual.
every 2 months there is a call observation. if the price of both 939 and 2628 are above 95% of original, the deposit is terminated and u get your money back plus the interest accrued.
if at the end of 2 years the worst performer is below 85% of the initial price, u get the stock at the 85% price (i.e. not a capital protected product) |
so, in order to collect the "interesting" coupon, you have to hope that the prices of the underlying stocks fall more than 5% (and ideally not much more than that) but less than 15%?
why would anyone want to buy this? | |

17-02-2007, 01:21 AM
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| | | you want it to go up above 95%.
since if you do that u'd get your 20%*2/12 = 3+ percent within just 2 months.
for someone that thinks the two chinese shares are not going to go below 85% of the current price they can get a high yield return with the product.
frankly, for such a worst of basket with a 2 years put, the risk is very high. the private bankers do these kind of structures as well but they tend to keep to within 6mths or max 1 years. i used ot issue alot for just 6 weeks.
alot of traders take these kind of risk. i.e. selling options. the monetization of the risk premium is quite attractive if you do it over a long time. but retail tend to be one time investment/punting and in such cases i'd recommend ppl to do straight fund/equity invest more than this. | |

21-02-2007, 04:41 PM
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| | | wow, thanx guys. he kept pushing me to invest on this products. He also mentioned airbag thing..but I didn't understand it. | |

21-02-2007, 07:59 PM
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| | | i suppose the airbag refers to the 85% strike level. so in case any of the 2 stocks really drop you get to buy the worst one at 85% current price. | |

21-02-2007, 10:13 PM
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| | | roll3432, Just out of curiosity, which bank was this? | |

22-02-2007, 12:00 AM
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