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Old 21-09-2006, 08:25 AM
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Bittorrent speeds on netvigator

Cant seem to download essential TV shows (yeah.... essential to my sanity!) from the US torrent sites. Also have problems with UK Nova.

Do any of you P2P gurus have some tips?

The problem has surfaced over the last two or three days. Usually we can get 50-100KBps to US torrents and 300+KBps to UKnova based torrents.
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Have you tired www.mininova.org? I did notice some slowness too recently...there is another site...but, you need to be invited to it....and the DL is really fast...but, you need to UL too or you will be banned...I can't remeber the name...have to check my home PC and get back to you...
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Old 21-09-2006, 11:31 AM
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Yeah, I use bt-chat.com and mininova.. but looks like it might be a router issue or flooding problem. I use peerguardian but that does not help to.

I need to put a protocol analyser in place to see what is really going over the wire and if it is a problem related to some other software which is causing connection slowdowns.
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Old 21-09-2006, 04:44 PM
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KIA,

I think they allocated your bandwidth to me. After months of getting not much more than 100-150kB/s on well seeded UKNova torrents I've started getting 300+ recently and maxing out at 750-800 across all torrents.

I assume nothing has changed on your port forwarding front - thats one possible culprit. I also reboot my router every now and then as sometimes it 'seems' to slow down after a few days of downloading.

Also, never quite understood how (or even if) your share ratio with a given tracker has an effect on download speeds. I maintain a healthy ratio with uknova, but don't really pay attention to any of the others.

Hope it fixes itself soon
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Old 21-09-2006, 05:43 PM
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Yeah. UKNova slow down was a major blow ... I'm used to the speeds that you're getting. I was able to get Spooks downloaded @ > 300KBps.

Port forwarding is setup ok.

Router has been rebooted / reflashed with the upgraded ROM etc.

I've even shut down .. waited for the IP to get reallocated and turned back on... sure enough it slows down.

One thing, when it slows down, even the pings to netvigator.com take 1000+ ms (usually at 80-90) which indicates that they're either killing the connection or my router is getting overloaded with some floods.
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Yeah. UKNova slow down was a major blow ... I'm used to the speeds that you're getting. I was able to get Spooks downloaded @ > 300KBps.

Port forwarding is setup ok.

Router has been rebooted / reflashed with the upgraded ROM etc.

I've even shut down .. waited for the IP to get reallocated and turned back on... sure enough it slows down.

One thing, when it slows down, even the pings to netvigator.com take 1000+ ms (usually at 80-90) which indicates that they're either killing the connection or my router is getting overloaded with some floods.
Or it could be running out of memory if you are using NAT. The Bittorrent floods the ram of routers NAT tranlsation tables. Also cpu, a router in which you can check the cpu loading is always a plus. I found a few months ago the way Bit-torrent clients work did pound the cpu of my home Cisco (only a 1605R), still this has changed, I never see it being pounded now. I think they have changed the behaviour of the bittorrent clients. Bitcomet 1.7 is for sure a much better behaved program than the 1.56 which would grind the machine, it did not try to estimate how many free sockets a machine had etc.

Another thing to watch out for is rate limiting your upload or the capacity of your circuit. I think the bittorrent protocol has got options to give you as much as you give out, I also find when downloading ISO images from Unix sites, their policies are more generous and will let you just suck and not give out anything. Anyway those torrent trackers have these "Fair" policies, if your upstream pipe is only a 640Kbit... well you can't really expect them to give you 8Mbit in bound.

I've also found if you rate limit your upload speed to 0KB/s, they throughput will increase for a while and then they will all stop sending you data until you increase your upload speed.

Anyway, KIA, the best advice I can give is be patient. Also cut down your concurrent downloads as your router maybe chocking with the NAT table or the cpu load to scan the NAT table.
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ok guys i used to use diet kazaa without any problems. my ancient computer finally bit the dust and i want to start downloading some new shows. i've tried various torrents but can never seem to get them to work!

any advice? i need my LOST, West Wing, etc!

thanks
PS> please provide details on what i should download etc...i can usually figure stuff out if i'm pointed int he right direction, but i'm computer challenged for the most part!
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Yeah, I use bt-chat.com and mininova.. but looks like it might be a router issue or flooding problem. I use peerguardian but that does not help to.

I need to put a protocol analyser in place to see what is really going over the wire and if it is a problem related to some other software which is causing connection slowdowns.
KIA - can you tell me, what does PeerGuardian actually do / achieve? I know it blocks lists of IP addresses but why am I supposed to do this? It has been baffling me for a while.

Thanks
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Have you tried different BT clients? Just an idea. The solutions described above would mostly explain a slower download rate, not a change in rate as you have experienced. Time to format c: and reinstall maybe? Even a defrag might help, although I doubt it.

Of course I assume you have checked the obvious - free hdd space, pagefile writes etc.
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Well, that is what I just did (almost...)

Uninstalled pretty much everything Bittorrent related, removed peer guardian and windows defender etc ...

Seems to have returned to about 70-80% of its normal speed.

>> PeerGuardian

There are a fair number of bad clients and networks out there that inject bad data into the torrent downloads. HBO for example employs private groups to inject bad data into Rome (the show) downloads... like anyone would want that show, but that is another story.
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