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Old 15-08-2006, 10:26 AM
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Dogs of the Dow

Does anyone here have experience in investing in the "10 dogs of the dow"? Considering making it part of my portfolio.
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who are the dogs ?
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who are the dogs ?
Changes some every year but it is the highest dividend paying companies in the Dow Jones Industrial Average. The Dogs of the Dow Theory is really quite simple. The Dow Jones Industrials is a prestigious list of companies to begin with. By sorting these stocks to find the ten companies with the highest dividend yield, you are automatically choosing companies that are undervalued relative to their peers. By refreshing the list each year, you're always picking new "dogs" - the ones that stand the greatest chance of catching up with their peers.

You have to understand what causes companies to pay higher dividends in order for this to make sense to you. Another part of the logic is reinvesting the dividends allows you to cushion your fall if the stock falls and you end with more shares when the company rebounds, most of whom do.

Here are the 2006 Dogs.

Stock Symbol Company Name 2005 Close Dividend Yield
GM General Motors $19.42 10.5%
VZ Verizon Communications $30.12 5.4%
MRK Merck and Co. $31.81 4.7%
MO Altria Group $74.72 4.3%
PFE Pfizer Inc. $23.32 4.1%
C Citigroup $48.53 3.6%
JPM JP Morgan Chase $39.69 3.4%
DD DuPont $42.50 3.4%
KO Coca-Cola $40.31 2.8%
GE General Electric $35.05 2.8%

I first read about this in a book by Jeremy Siegel and for some reason I can't remember the name of it right now. The annual return over the last 20 years has been 17% as opposed to 11% for the rest of the dow.

Anyway, just wondering if anyone here is doing it.
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ic. well, in a quiet market (no growth bubble) the high div stocks are usually the one performing as they have a cash flow basis.

what u can do is, buy the stocks, short the dj index for an equivalent exposure, and there u go, a market neutral portfolio.
this is what alot of the hedge funds are doing and the people are not understanding. 8-)
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Pick your own

More fun that way.

Divide the yield by the square root of the price. This gives you a ratio for each stock. Rank the stocks by this ratio highest to lowest. Dump the stock with the highest ratio. Then buy the next four stocks in equal dollar amounts.




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The Dogs of the Dow is a pretty arbitrary way to select stocks. Like why 10 and not 8, etc?

But yes, there could be some undervalued stocks there. On the other hand their dividend yield could be high because their stock price has dropped.

My choice, do your own research and figure out which ones you like and which you don't.

But, yes, I do own a number of the stocks you listed.
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The Dogs of the Dow is a pretty arbitrary way to select stocks. Like why 10 and not 8, etc?

But yes, there could be some undervalued stocks there. On the other hand their dividend yield could be high because their stock price has dropped.

My choice, do your own research and figure out which ones you like and which you don't.

But, yes, I do own a number of the stocks you listed.
You are right. It is arbitrary and a lazy way to invest, but seems pretty good given the performance history and the little effort required.
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More fun that way.

Divide the yield by the square root of the price. This gives you a ratio for each stock. Rank the stocks by this ratio highest to lowest. Dump the stock with the highest ratio. Then buy the next four stocks in equal dollar amounts.





Did you come up with that on your own?
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certain part of investment it might be good to get rid of the sentiment and psychologies. human tend to be greedy or panicky, when the situation changes...

so if u have a decent idea just plant it in and see it grow, instead of trying to meddle with it too much.
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Did you come up with that on your own?
No actually it is something from the Motley Fool called the foolish four-

Main thing it works; try it with the Hang Seng constituent stocks [on paper of course]

http://www.hsi.com.hk/constituent/hi...historical.pdf
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