[cerberus]

lowlight: sorry you had the impression i was addressing you, wasn't.

Asian1: i'd love to deal with it if you'd stop being so aggressive. "deal with it" is, as we all know, akin to "go f**k yourself", which i don't think any of my posts ever suggested you go ahead and do. it is also not the most cerebral of retorts, when one stops to think about it.

additionally, i'm the first one to admit there's racism and discrimination everywhere, including in the west. it's the inability to address this issue with a straight face in asia that's hurting us.

and lastly, your previous post essentially rehashed what i said and threw it back at me. i'm sure you can do better than that.

the fact is, we started this thread coolheadedly with comments about discrimination in HK, comprising people's opinions and experiences. then you came along with a passionate, from-the-hip response that indicates you're feeling guilty/outraged/conscious of some deep sentiment, and consequently, it's you that has failed to deal with feedback to that without resorting to you-started-it tactics.

and posting as you please is a given, that's what this forum is about methinks.

upon re-reading this entire thread, jrose asked about discrminiation IN HONG KONG. why then was it necessary to even refer to discrmination anywhere else? you did not answer the original poster's question. there was no need for anyone to "look in the mirror", certainly in light of the initial query.

and i'm very sorry to hear you have no sympathy for me. with a name like Asian1 in mind, that's very troubling. maybe i should rename myself to something equally ethnocentric and then have no sympathy for you, either.

[cerberus]

you know what, you're just full of it. re-read everything AGAIN. show me where i said racism doesn't exist outside HK/Asia. show me where, or how, i even remotely implied that it's unique to HK/Asia, and where i failed to acknowledge it as a universal problem. please, do show me, i hope to be proven an idiot, coz maybe then this whole thing will start making more sense.

ok, gotta go back to work.

[lowlight]

Originally Posted by hullexile

Lovely catch 22 for me there lowlight - either I'm going mad and imagining things or I am unappealing in some way. Can't I have a third choice? I'm not really bothered about all of this I just think its really funny. What I am most concerned about is that Jessica now thinks I am repulsive and I have lost my chance with the icre cream

I'm not saying that it couldn't possibly be discrimination. Just that it would more likely be the other things before that. Because it seems to be happening to you a LOT, according to what you're saying. That seems abnormally high, but whatever.

[hullexile]

Originally Posted by lowlight

I'm not saying that it couldn't possibly be discrimination. Just that it would more likely be the other things before that. Because it seems to be happening to you a LOT, according to what you're saying. That seems abnormally high, but whatever.

An alternative is that I am an academic whose specialism is cultural difference so that I observe very very closely what is happening and how people behave. Hong Kong is like one giant play pen for me! I love the cultural differences, have you for example ever noticed that the Chinese walk differently to westerners? They tend to use their knees more with a swing of the lower leg, whereas westerners tend to be more straight legged. Filipinos on the other hand walk with their feet pointed out. As opposed to the hard working culture of Hong Kong I am a lazy git who only works six hours a day, and takes days off when he feels like it (like today), so I have plenty of time for observing. Tough life.

[lowlight]

Originally Posted by hullexile

An alternative is that I am an academic whose specialism is cultural difference so that I observe very very closely what is happening and how people behave. Hong Kong is like one giant play pen for me! I love the cultural differences, have you for example ever noticed that the Chinese walk differently to westerners? They tend to use their knees more with a swing of the lower leg, whereas westerners tend to be more straight legged. Filipinos on the other hand walk with their feet pointed out. As opposed to the hard working culture of Hong Kong I am a lazy git who only works six hours a day, and takes days off when he feels like it (like today), so I have plenty of time for observing. Tough life.

I observe as much as you; it's part of why I live here. Tough life indeed!

[Mat]

you guys have way too much time.........

[Jessica Adams]

Originally Posted by hullexile

have you for example ever noticed that the Chinese walk differently to westerners? They tend to use their knees more with a swing of the lower leg, whereas westerners tend to be more straight legged. Filipinos on the other hand walk with their feet pointed out.

I really should pay more attention to it and see if I can spot the difference(between using knees more with a swing of the lower leg, and more straight legged). That's "funny" observation! Well, I'm not worrying if I have enough time but worrying that I might be branded a "perv" by staring at people legs

[Asian1]

Cerebus, let's just agree to disagree. No harm no foul. Just a difference in opinion and search for reasons. I look for macro reasons rooted in human nature whereas you are looking for a local reason. I think the answer lies with reasons rooted in human nature which includes insecurity, greed, exploitation, reaction to past history, etc. By and large the Asian countries have a history of colonialism and this even includes post WW2 Japan. So some of the reaction you get from someone not taking a seat next to you may have to do with that. Some of it may be some bad experience with a drunken fool on the way back from Lan Gwai Fong making sexual cat calls or something similar. Some of it could be fear of having conduct a conversation in English. Personally, I've had non-English speaking locals running away from me when I converse to them in English asking for directions or help. I shouldn't even have to respond to the moniker or handle thing but BTW it was a random choice. My wife is Caucasian so I think you are barking up the wrong tree with any innuendo on some sort of Hitler like xenophobia. Dude you are one complex mofo and I say this in a friendly way.

[Krad]

Originally Posted by Jessica Adams

I really should pay more attention to it and see if I can spot the difference(between using knees more with a swing of the lower leg, and more straight legged). That's "funny" observation! Well, I'm not worrying if I have enough time but worrying that I might be branded a "perv" by staring at people legs

Umm...I would think being covered in ice cream would draw more attention anyways.

[Lammarite]

Originally Posted by Mat

you guys have way too much time.........

Or just use what they have more efficiently!

Originally Posted by Krad

Umm...I would think being covered in ice cream would draw more attention anyways.

Especially if everyone can see your nuts!

PS_ get off my avatar!!