[gilleshk]

Originally Posted by Hamton

Dude, you're the one here who has said "drinking and talking with the girls" are worthless pursuits. So... you see socialising as worthless. Well done there.

You seem to value body building. You don't seem to value socialising. One can only conclude from that, that YOU are a dumb, arrogant muscle head who condones drug use and has no social skills.

That's probably completely wrong. But you're anti-socialising and pro-body-building, so that's the obvious conclusion one can draw.

Sooo Mr logical, I dare you to find the word worthless in any of my post. You must be a fan of George Bush. If you're not with me, you must be against me.

May I point out that you started by saying that YOU have more worthwhile things to do than body build. Therefore taking a shot at an activity with very little basis for doing so except your own opinion. Your line of reasoning is as weak as saying that pub goers are all alcoholics. Or that someone that doesn't do pubs is anti socilaizing.

I NEVER said it was worthless to go to the pub and you decided to draw a nice line and include socializing in the basket as if one can't socialize outside a pub.

What I do say and where you sound incredibly pedantic and arrogant is that YOU can't put an absolute value on an activity. You may feel that pubbing and drinking is more worthwhile of your time but in reality, it's a personal choice.

And I certainly have no more respect with drunks than I have with steroid users... If you can't be who you want without drugs/alcohol...well that's just sad

[Hamton]

Originally Posted by gilleshk

Sooo Mr logical, I dare you to find the word worthless in any of my post.

To quote you; "Would drinking beer and gossiping with the girls at lunch be more worthwhile than bodybuilding then?"

Saying that in response to me clearly implies you don't think it's a worthwhile pursuit. You don't need to literally say it's worthless, it's quite clearly implied. If your original post wasn't being utterly sarcastic, I apologise, but it's quite clear that you were being a sarcastic pleb and thus stating that "drinking and talking with girls" was not a worthwhile pursuit in direct response to my comment.

Originally Posted by gilleshk

And I certainly have no more respect with drunks than I have with steroid users... If you can't be who you want without drugs/alcohol...well that's just sad

What the hell does getting drunk have to do with anything??????

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Seriously.

You don't have to get drunk to have a drink. Jesus H Christ.


You must be serious fun to be around. Many people slit their wrists in your company?

[Hamton]

Originally Posted by gilleshk

You may feel that pubbing and drinking is more worthwhile of your time but in reality, it's a personal choice.

Originally Posted by gilleshk

pubbing

Originally Posted by gilleshk

pubbing

Hey Granddad!

"Drinking and talking with the girls" as you originally said, is a social activity.

Social activities are worthwhile and arguably the main purpose of humanity after procreation (and they're the main factor in procreation too).

So of course, it's a more worthwhile use of your time than taking steroids, growth hormones and lifting weights in an attempt to shrink your neck and penis.


How you've brought this on to drinking lots of alcohol and getting drunk... well, you must have been talking to yourself.

"Drinking" doesn't mean getting drunk. It doesn't even necessarily mean drinking alcohol. Drinking coke, tea or coffee with friends is just as valid a way of socialising as drinking beer. I've never said anything to the contrary. You've just assumed that drinking means getting drunk drinking beer. It doesn't. It can. But it doesn't have to.



As for your respect of drunks. Don't worry, they probably don't respect you either, seeing as you're classing anyone sipping a pint in a bar as an automatic drunk.

[gilleshk]

So if I ask if something is more worthwhile then it has to be worthless? Is it that time of the month when you feel more sensitive?

My point would be that YOU can't put an absolute value on an activity just as I can't... I'm afraid that I can find much better use of my time than going to the pub or gossiping with the girls, it doesn't make it worthless nor does it make me an anti social all of a sudden... Really you must have issues...

As to the drunk quote, it was a generic you but once again...so sensitive...

I don't need to respond to all your personal infantile insults in kind and defend myself... yet it seems that everything has to be a personal attack on you..Issues Issues...

[gilleshk]

Originally Posted by Hamton

Hey Granddad!

"Drinking and talking with the girls" as you originally said, is a social activity.

Social activities are worthwhile and arguably the main purpose of humanity after procreation (and they're the main factor in procreation too).

How is it that you decide which social activities are indeed social? Going to the gym can't be a social activity?

So of course, it's a more worthwhile use of your time than taking steroids, growth hormones and lifting weights in an attempt to shrink your neck and penis.

How you've brought this on to drinking lots of alcohol and getting drunk... well, you must have been talking to yourself.

"Drinking" doesn't mean getting drunk. It doesn't even necessarily mean drinking alcohol. Drinking coke, tea or coffee with friends is just as valid a way of socialising as drinking beer. I've never said anything to the contrary. You've just assumed that drinking means getting drunk drinking beer. It doesn't. It can. But it doesn't have to.

Once again, your thinking is somewhat infantile and disingenuous. I pointed out that I find as ridicule to say that all pub goers are alcoholics as saying that bodybuilding automatically equates taking steroids and all the other negative things you have to say about it.



As for your respect of drunks. Don't worry, they probably don't respect you either, seeing as you're classing anyone sipping a pint in a bar as an automatic drunk.

Your words, not mine

Sad, sad, sad to try to twist words!

[ThinkDifferent]

Originally Posted by Hamton

Steroid use damages your organs, which is not reversible (yay, liver failure!), it also messes with your hormone levels.

do you have slightest idea what you are talking about?

hormone levels return to normal within months.

liver? Find me a study that says that injectible steroids like winstrol or deca cause liver problems.
On the contrary, it was proved that they DO NOT cause any liver problems.

what can affect your liver is large dosages and significantly long use of oral steroids (like dianabol, methandienon etc.)

[ThinkDifferent]

Originally Posted by Hamton

It's not a medicine. It's a growth stimulant that occurs naturally during puberty, but then STOPS (aside from mildly during sleep) - presumably for a very good reason. If you take it unnaturally after puberty, you might be fucking with nature in that regard.

LOL what a moronic argument.

[gilleshk]

Originally Posted by ThinkDifferent

do you have slightest idea what you are talking about?

hormone levels return to normal within months.

liver? Find me a study that says that injectible steroids like winstrol or deca cause liver problems.
On the contrary, it was proved that the DO NOT cause any liver problems.

what can affect your liver is large dosages and significantly long use of oral steroids (like dianabol, methandienon etc.)

There are plenty of documented good reasons not to take them. Why would you need or want to? Inadequacy? A sense that you can't achieve what you want naturally? A shortcut?

[ThinkDifferent]

Originally Posted by gilleshk

There are plenty of documented good reasons not to take them. Why would you need or want to? Inadequacy? A sense that you can't achieve what you want naturally? A shortcut?

Show me a "documented good reason" that says that moderate dosages of steroids used by an adult male cause serious health problems.

It's just plain retarded to judge about some kind of medication by looking only at the possible side effects.

[gilleshk]

Originally Posted by ThinkDifferent

Show me a "documented good reason" that says that moderate dosages of steroids used by an adult male cause serious health problems.

It's just plain retarded to judge about some kind of medication by looking only at the possible side effects.

Medication? Are bodybuilders using them sick? Once again..why use them? Because you can't achieve what you want naturally? You need shortcuts? It may be that certain dosages of certain substances are not that harmful to your health when administered and controlled by medical experts. Unfortunately, that's not the reality of steroid use.