| Thanks Guys. Appreciate the advice. Bing Lee and Sunbeam may be the goer - and it is a good price. When I said external streamer I meant the nozzle on the side, compared to those models that don't. I know that doesn't sound techincal - because I'm not. I just love my coffee, and have never done the at home thing - except with the old plunger. So it may well be a bit hit and miss with the first few that we do - I image. | 