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Old 06-12-2006, 12:52 AM
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hi jimbo,

well, you do not want to say more that's fine. but hopefully you are open to reading some comments and advise.

i was the guy that you showed me your resume and I told you to redo it because it was too cluttered. glad that you did the professional version and its reaping the rewards.

i know you are a nice guy and one of those that worked hard to gain your experience, but I think on the practical/realistic domain you still have things to pick up.

its easy for someone who's getting frustrated (in your case) to get emotional, but think from an employer's perspective! your experience is actually a disadvantage in you part. without a degree there are limitation in where u can climb next, and yet you are so senior that a regular manager that's like 5-7 years experience will find it uneasy to give command to you. jobs that you do might not be easy, but to most employers that's quite a basic job and i don't think they value experience as much.

so, figure out a way to get out of the vicious cycle. if need be, go get a degree. ya, that's like paper chasing, but what else can an employer rely on other than papers. if you are being employed by the CEO then fine, but likelihood your employment decision is made by HR or some VPs... how willing are they to take a risk on your profile and if something screws up take the responsibility. in UK its normal for someone of your experience and calibre, but in HK its entirely different. so is it fair for you to be moaning about big 4s unwilling to take you in ?

i went thru similar process like you in the past. my first banking job interview, the boss decided not to take me in because I am too aggressive and sharp for his team. but he introduce me to another job that's much better than the original one I went for and now I am progressing in the right direction. i get calls from HH almost every other week, but when i was going thru the initial switching process it was so miserable. still, I never thought it was the fault of the boss. everyplace in this capitalistic world there is the local politics that determine how a person shld behave, and its important for you to think from the perspective of the employer and see where are your shortfalls.

off hand, i really think you shld forget the pride and go study for a degree or something. most people of your experience and age are doing that and they are also staying in their somewhat comfortable job. its rare to see them hopping jobs or challenging to get a overseas job.

for all it is, good luck to you. hope you don't take my comments negatively. I think you are a nice person and I can only give you my comments. hopefully this also helps other that are in similar situation as yours or mine.

cheers and good night (morning).
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